Reading some BlueWhiteIllustrated.com today, and man Albany, you were right about PSU fans
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Posted at 1:32 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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The sacrificial lamb of the NCAA--hard to find find positives, but this
No TV ban---can see my Lions destroy the rest of the NCAA favored children on TV--players need to fuel their hatred of this corrupt organization that is all about symbolism onto the playing field. We have a full deck of scholarship players this yr--and they will stick together with OBrien, and soften the blow of the sanctions---if between the students and fans, the gameday atmosphere is as electric as the past, we will be telling the NCAA to collectively stick it, and the players will be fighting to get one of the 15 spots, and walking on as a chance to get to the NFL and be part of the best college FB student body.
Being on TV will help recruiting. The bowl ban and scholarship reductions hurt. The money part I'm not sure about---not sure how the fundraising will go into the future. We'll see who the real Penn Staters are the next four years. It's easy to jump on bandwagon---the real fans will show up now.
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Replies to: Reading some BlueWhiteIllustrated.com today, and man Albany, you were right about PSU fans
Thread Level: 2 Author:Killshot(13040 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single ...all happened. A better penalty would have been the donation of $60 M to a fund for victims rather than to the NCAA coffers. Penalizing 2016 graduates is as dumb as it gets. And I agree with the poster Mac is mocking. He has a healthy attitude.The sanctions are ridiculous -- penalize players and students who were in 2nd grade when this...
Posted at 10:54 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 2 Author:PBHangingChad(15790 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single God save us allPlease refrain from giving Albany credit, he is on here enough already, many posts in our future
Posted at 3:23 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 3 Author:jimbasil(50000 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007) View Single (no message)You're surrounded.
Posted at 4:13 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)You're my huckleberry.
Posted at 3:33 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 2 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)If you were a PSU fan right now, or if this had happened at ND, what would your reaction be?
Posted at 2:17 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 3 Author:IrishmanTX1989(371 Posts - Joined: Oct 5, 2011) View Single (no message)I would murder the f*ckhead who raped little boys
Posted at 2:29 pm on Jul 23, 2012
I had a double lung transplant and you didn't
Thread Level: 4 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single But after you've murdered the raper and the HC and the AD and the University President, then what?Well sure
Posted at 2:35 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 5 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Actually she would be first.He'd probably off Mom.
Posted at 2:37 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 3 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single I'd leave and never look back. This message has been edited 1 time(s).If this had happened at ND, I'd do what I did during the Catholic Church abuse cover-up.
Posted at 2:25 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 4 Author:Killshot(13040 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)Both stupid responses.
Posted at 11:03 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:Damian(94 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Does that make everyone guilty that lives in Pennsylvania for what happened at PSU?So, everyone is now guilty that is associated with the Catholic Church because of guilty priests?
Posted at 3:32 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 5 Author:McSweeney(17832 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Albany expects a certain level of accountability at the highest levels from institutions, whether that be PSU, ND or the Vatican. Penn State's pass-the-buck enabling was eerily and tragically similar to the Catholic Church hierarchy, which disgusted Albany and pushed him out of the Church. The culpability or lack thereof of other Catholics is immaterial. Full disclosure: I'm a 40-year Cradle Catholic who finally left the Church six months ago for the very same reasons as Albany. The difference between us being I still look back with some regret and am not a closet raging atheist (sorry Albany) who tries way too hard to bash Christianity.That's not what he implied, but thanks for playing.
Posted at 4:03 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 6 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single I'm done bashing organized religion, as long as those religions and those that follow them stay out of my life. Good luck to you.No problemo.
Posted at 4:31 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 7 Author:NedoftheHill(41640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011) View Single More ammo for you... This message has been edited 1 time(s).That's actually pretty damned funny.
Posted at 2:22 pm on Jul 24, 2012
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 6 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Based on this post I'm assuming you are less conflicted now. Is that a fair assumption?There was a time when I thought you were a closet raging atheist
Posted at 4:07 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 7 Author:McSweeney(17832 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Thanks to the right pastor and the right faith community--a contemporary non-denominational Protestant church of all things--I've managed to find a place for Christ in my life. They've even asked me to be on the church's leadership team, which was flattering, scary and hilarious all at once. I declined of course, as on a couple key issues I'm still a bit heretical. There's my fondness for gays of course, plus my inability to read the words "the Holy Bible is a perfect treasure of divine instruction and truth without any mixture of error" without laughing out loud.Way less conflicted
Posted at 4:21 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 8 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single That whole struggling over your religious beliefs thing can be rough but if you can come out on the other side with some clarity, it's totally worth it.Well that's good news.
Posted at 4:54 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 3 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Seriously. If it can harbor this, it is too powerful and too damaging to the other missions of the university. I believe college football might be gone in 20 years anyway.Stop Football Forever
Posted at 2:24 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:IrishmanTX1989(371 Posts - Joined: Oct 5, 2011) View Single (no message)Why would football be gone in 20 years ?
Posted at 2:31 pm on Jul 23, 2012
I had a double lung transplant and you didn't
Thread Level: 5 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single and I think you can see how that may happen as the conferences realign and as the argument for paying players gets louder. But I suppose the case could be made for football in general. The concussion problems are not going to just go away.He said college football
Posted at 2:34 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 6 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)It amazes me technology hasn't eradicated this issue.
Posted at 2:36 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 7 Author:Iggle(11406 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007) View Single But it is still in Beta TestThere is a viable workaround
Posted at 2:51 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 8 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)That would certainly level the playing field for ND Football!
Posted at 3:01 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 5 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single To quote Catwoman, "There's a storm coming" and college football doesn't have big salaries to hide behind.Concussions
Posted at 2:32 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 6 Author:Killshot(13040 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)Agree...I favor Aussie rules.
Posted at 11:07 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 6 Author:IrishmanTX1989(371 Posts - Joined: Oct 5, 2011) View Single it will be changed greatlyMaybe it won't be gone, but
Posted at 2:34 pm on Jul 23, 2012
I had a double lung transplant and you didn't
Thread Level: 4 Author:jabbadoody5(19852 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single I know it must be hard for some of these fans to just move on from the program, as it would be for me, but I imagine that's what I would end up doing. I can't really get into the mind of the guys that are hanging on for dear life.That's what I think.
Posted at 2:28 pm on Jul 23, 2012
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Thread Level: 2 Author:JTLA(3477 Posts - Joined: Jan 15, 2008) View Single IF PSU has real leadership, they should step up and double the penalties today. This story has been a real PR lesson. Someone inside PSU needs to change the story. Right now the national story is: PSU was dirty and needs to be punished. Change the story to: PSU goes beyond NCAA sanctions to self impose penalties THAT is the only way the school will begin to repair it's image and people will stop hating them. If they don't do this, they will be the butt of jokes and scorn for many many years. Keep fighting it PSU fans, I love it.I can't get over the lunacy
Posted at 1:58 pm on Jul 23, 2012
PSU fans still don't get it.
Thread Level: 3 Author:ChicagoIrish(7717 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single I guess those closest to a cult leader are the last to have their eyes opened This message has been edited 1 time(s).the paterno family's constant unapologetic statements aren't helping
Posted at 2:04 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:Fisher01(6374 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single If anything, those psychopaths almost make me feel sorry for him. While he was dying amid the scandal, they were trying to negotiate use of a private jet, and a skybox in Beaver Stadium next to the President to be used by the family for life. Then come the statements denying any and all guilt. They could show some quiet reservation, but chose not to. What a bunch of spoiled, worthless idiots who would could at least show their father/husband some frigging dignity. It if wasn't for him, they would all be sitting on the side of the road advertising sexual favors for $5.I am not blaming Joe Pa for his family
Posted at 2:19 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:JTLA(3477 Posts - Joined: Jan 15, 2008) View Single A MA ZING It's a true and total PR lesson and the media loves it. This story needs antagonists, and they are doing a fantastic job. What I love about this is that they arrogance embedded in the statement says "Joe wasn't consulted on this". THAT'S BEEN THE PROBLEM. Joe shouldn't have been in charge of anything, he was an employee not a monarch. They are asking for everyone to wait for a long drawn out legal battle to decide. Trust me, the last thing ANYONE wants is a long drawn out legal battle. The bean counters at PSU know this. Link: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/23/paterno-family-reacts-to-ncaa-sanctions-2/Just read the most recent one...
Posted at 2:11 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 5 Author:ShowMeIrish(8996 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single This is going to be a great movieI swear I won't be surprised when we find out that Joe had the DA killed
Posted at 2:12 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Slightly better than a Mexican
Thread Level: 6 Author:guiness4everyone(2128 Posts - Joined: Jan 19, 2011) View Single (no message)Or, that JoPa himself was a pedophile!
Posted at 12:41 am on Jul 25, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:ShowMeIrish(8996 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Watching the kid call his dad "Joe Paterno" over and over is creepy. I call my dad, dad, not Steve ShowmeIrishHave they issued a statement today?
Posted at 2:06 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Slightly better than a Mexican
Thread Level: 5 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single They could not be handling this worse. Statement by the Paterno Family in response to the NCAA Sanctions: Sexual abuse is reprehensible, especially when it involves children, and no one starting with Joe Paterno condones or minimizes it. The horrific acts committed by Jerry Sandusky shock the conscience of every decent human being. How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report. The release of the Freeh report has triggered an avalanche of vitriol, condemnation and posthumous punishment on Joe Paterno. The NCAA has now become the latest party to accept the report as the final word on the Sandusky scandal. The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best. That the President, the Athletic Director and the Board of Trustees accepted this unprecedented action by the NCAA without requiring a full due process hearing before the Committee on Infractions is an abdication of their responsibilities and a breach of their fiduciary duties to the University and the 500,000 alumni. Punishing past, present and future students of the University because of Sanduskys crimes does not serve justice. This is not a fair or thoughtful action; it is a panicked response to the public's understandable revulsion at what Sandusky did. The point of due process is to protect against this sort of reflexive action. Joe Paterno was never interviewed by the University or the Freeh Group. His counsel has not been able to interview key witnesses as they are represented by counsel related to ongoing litigation. We have had no access to the records reviewed by the Freeh group. The NCAA never contacted our family or our legal counsel. And the fact that several parties have pending trials that could produce evidence and testimony relevant to this matter has been totally discounted. Unfortunately all of these facts have been ignored by the NCAA, the Freeh Group and the University. Mara Vandlik Account Director McGinn and Company Link: Train Wreck PR This message has been edited 1 time(s).Re: Have they issued a statement today?
Posted at 2:08 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 6 Author:ChicagoIrish(7717 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single with Joe dead, he won't have to answer any more questions and won't face trial for perjury. So, unless you open your mouth and say newly stupid sh*t, any damage is done. This should be an opportunity to start the repair process and manage the message, instead of playing defensive and shifting any blame. This thing is not going to blow over with people waking up to re-realize what a great man Joe Paterno was. That's over. But, if you're the family, you can sound contrite and sympathetic to the victims and publicly accept any punishment that is handed down. And, you can promise to help victims of sex abuse somehow. Maybe start by donating some of those ($5.5) millions that Joe took last fall in his buyout. You can't make things right for the victims or their families, but you can act like you'd like to try and that Joe would have wanted it that way, because he was such a "great man" and "educator." At the very least, you could shut your f*cking mouths for 2 seconds or trying releasing a statement for once that isn't portraying a dead person as one of the victims here. This message has been edited 1 time(s).the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way
Posted at 2:37 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 6 Author:ShowMeIrish(8996 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Umm...it is pretty well understood by everyone but you guys..."How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood"
Posted at 2:11 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Slightly better than a Mexican
Thread Level: 7 Author:JTLA(3477 Posts - Joined: Jan 15, 2008) View Single I'd like to know how they think it happened. I'm sure everyone was well meaning and intentioned. The paperwork must have just gotten lost in the shuffle. Aw shucks. Wait, I'm thinking out loud as I'm typing this. IF IF IF IF the family thinks Joe is not to blame. The only culprit left is the UNIVERSITY system. If Joe did all he could then the president, AD, and all conspired against Joe's wishes to keep Sandusky from being exposed. They deserve all the punishment they should get.Well put
Posted at 2:22 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 8 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single The punishment was against Penn State, not Paternos (unless you count the wins thing). They should say -- well, nothing -- but if they must talk say, The University deserves punishment for not acting on the information they were given.That's why it is such awful PR
Posted at 2:27 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Done. 10,000 times better than what they said. Instead they are asking for more blame on Paternos on a day they aren't involved. And they attack Freeh? Good God, what fools.
Thread Level: 7 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single 1/28/1997 PS - Should we maybe look into preventing terrorists from taking over planes and flying them into buildings?I'm just waiting for the "lost" Joe Paterno letter to the DA to emerge
Posted at 2:20 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Dear DA -
I think maybe Jerry Sandusky is a bad guy. Please arrest him.
Joe Pa
Thread Level: 8 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)P.S.S. Watch out for abuses in sub-prime mortgages.
Posted at 2:32 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 9 Author:JTLA(3477 Posts - Joined: Jan 15, 2008) View Single (no message)lol
Posted at 2:37 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 2 Author:AlbanyIRISH(24507 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single (no message)The BWI/McAndrew Board is a traditional spawning ground for psycopaths.
Posted at 1:55 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 2 Author:ChicagoIrish(7717 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single When the "real fans" show up, we can use this opportunity to identify people who support the cover up of child sex abuse. I don't ever want to accidentally befriend or hire a "real" Penn State fan.this is helpful
Posted at 1:43 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 3 Author:Flanner525(2542 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single Hopefully the ones that do transfer will not be villainized by these crazies. I have this suggestion for any player who wishes to leave Penn State and does not want anyone to criticize him, simply make the following statement: "I could not bring myself to shower in there."These fans are going to put a lot of pressure on those kids to stay
Posted at 2:02 pm on Jul 23, 2012
Thread Level: 4 Author:hawkmurph(242 Posts - Original UHND Member) View Single is their Saturday afternoon tailgate being ruined. They could care less about victims or student athletes.The only thing these people are worried about
Posted at 2:34 pm on Jul 23, 2012
