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Specialist Dutch Nationality Lawyer (jurist). European-Dutch-Australian-British. -he is single- မင်းသား ခရစ်ဗွန် ဟက်စဘတ် ☆ 王子 ハプスブルクのクリス ☆ เจ้าชาย คริส ฟ็อน ฮาพส์บวร์ค ☆ 王子 哈布斯堡的克里斯 ☆ الامير كريس من عائلة هابسبرغ

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Historical myth or fantasy? The divorce duel to the death.In medieval Europe divorce was not a done thing and extremely difficult. The church said for ever and meant it, barring a few exceptions. If you didn't have enough wealth to donate to an understanding church then you were out of luck and stuck in that marriage. People were still a bit more liberal than the church but would of course not want to become the focus of the powerful priest/church.-->German combat instructor and court adviser Hans Talhofer wrote in 1467 Fechtbuch (“Fencing Book”). This included the subject of a divorce duel. At death you do part. He included techniques for couples engaged in such duels. Since men have obvious physical advantages, things had to get evened out. Hubbies, armed with three clubs, had to fight from inside a waist-high hole about three feet wide, with one hand tied to their body. Wives were armed with three rocks that weighed up to eight pounds, tied in a cloth like a battery in a sock, and could move around the hole freely.-->Both sides’ weapons had to be of equal length. A husband who touched the hole’s edge forfeited a club. If he did so three times, he had to continue unarmed. If that happened, he would presumably have to try and wrestle his wife into the hole before she bashed his head in. Talhofer’s manual offered advice about appropriate clothes, best techniques for each gender, and step-by-step instructions to exploit the opponent’s vulnerabilities. -->Although divorce duels were not to the death, death was the ultimate result. If the wife won, her husband was executed, and if the husband won, the wife was buried alive.-->So the book and story goes. But this is not just a myth, it is fake history. Maybe Hans was brainstorming with some palls on alternative solutions, maybe it was a joke to show society's ridiculous stance on divorce, maybe it was wishful thinking, maybe done to boost his readership, or a combination. But the reality is that no such divorce duel has ever been recorded. In the middle ages judicial duels and trials by ordeal were viewed with extreme scepticism. It is therefore very unlikely anyone acted as such before and even after Hans' fantastic publication.-->Do you think a divorce should be done amicable?Do you think marriage should be a commitment until death does you part?

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    Geen woorden hiervoor....lachen of huilen...?

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